Haww...Kya tum GAY ho??
Morning papers have something really nice about them. They give you all shocks, surprises and make you go through a surge of emotions. Something that sometimes even a good sex can't do. HAHA... Controversial!!
Controversy reminds me of the news about BOMBAY DOST in the papers these days. When the first time I got to know about this Mag, I thought it is some DOSTI Magazine based on Youngster's Friendships and Relationships, but when I read further, I got to know it is a Gay and Lesbian Community Magazine.
No, Like any average Indian, I did not raise my brows and assume that it is about some sleazy homosexual porn stuff. I was curious that even if Celina Jaitely will re-introduce it after a long time, how will it be received in this age of Moral policing and all that bullshit of Blah blah Senas.
I was expecting too much hoo-hallaa around it and I was not wrong. People have started sending her hate mails and some people branded her as a LESBIAN herself. I don't bother if she is one or not.
A statement issued from the Mag's editor makes me feel more weird. He says "Celina participated in the march despite the fact that people may assume her to be gay".Arey, even if they assume so... kya bura hain... there is nothing wrong in that, you don't need to justify it to the world whether u love people of same sex or opposite sex.
I have worked with gays, lesbians and transexuals in my office and let me tell you they respect us for being "Straight" and they deserve the same respect for being who they are.My organization is also very sensitive about this and no one is allowed to comment or even be judgemental about them.
They are not aliens... aasman se hi aye hain woh.. jahan se hum aaye hain... arey bhayee... toh fir why this homophobia...High time!! we come out of our stupid moral policing cobweb and accept the world as it is. Come on yaar, gay ho yaa lesbian, jeeney do unko bhi... how come is it a CRIME waisey bhi??
Pata nahi... I dont get these ajeeb fundaas... Jo jaisey rehna chaahta hain, rehney do naa yaar. Tum apni life fix karo... aivayee velley pareshan karna bhagwaan aur culture ke naam pey...There so many important things and issues in our country that need to be addressed and we are still caught up with Gay yaa Straight.
All I wanna say is : Jeeyo aur Jeeny Do bhaiya...itna time aata kahaan se hain doosro ki life ki band bajaaney ka??Ghar pe biwi maarti hain... bachchon ki class 5 ke sawaal solve nahi hotey tumsey... aur yahan chaley judgement pass karney doosro par... :D hehe... Apni ko toh sudhaar lo pehley.hehe
Arey,toh kya hua, if I am straight, I still support the MAG - BOMBAY DOST. Everyone has a right of expression,let it be gays or straights.Woh koi special nahi... humaari tarah hi hain... after all insaan hi hain yaar... thodi toh insaniyat dikhaaoo...unka peecha karna band karo...
Haww... main toh emotional hi ho gayi iss post ko lekey... Hona hi chahiye... Injustice kahin bhi ho, injustice hain bas.
Kabhi pub mat jaao, kabhi jeans mat pehno, kabhi angrezi mat bolo,kabhi yeh mat karo.. kabhi woh mat karo... sarr hi khaa gayi yeh moral police... Huh! NOTE: PLEASE DON'T TAKE OFFENSE WITH THE POST. THE AUTHOR DOES NOT MEAN TO HURT ANYONE ELSE EXCEPT HOMOPHOBICS. :)
74 comments:
harshita, being an ardent homo-philiac myself, i can't tell you how much i appreciate your attitude...
i once broke up with a guy because he was a homophobe.(well, that was one reason :))
I dun have any problem with GAY people ..till the time they dun hit on me :|
and LOL at the bachhon k 5 class k sawal solve nahi hotey part ..he he he that did sound as if it was exaggerated :D
Wonderfully written, in that so familiar Harshita style that I like so much :) good job on this, and I think it's important for everyone to grow up about this. It is high time the people - especially the "moral police" - did that!
Keep writing... cheers...
well said gal..they really aren't any different..the r just human beings with different sexual inclination. I also feels the same for the transsexuals.. don't know why they hav to liv as a different community or y can't the y mingle wth the society...
:0
im not homophobic and im a proud friend of a person who had the guts to accept that he is gay. being gay doesn't make him any less of a man a great friend....
in fact i condemn sleazy one track orthodox generalizing pigs who think being gay is somewhat a choice and not the divine providence... :)
awesome post hai ji harshi baby!!
Great post babe!!and kudos to u for writing on this topics...which is not generally discussed in the open. I dont see any point in keeping these things under the closet. There's nothing wrong if somebody loves someone of the same sex. Its their life and one shud hav the freedom to choose wht they want to do!!
gr8..gal...claps for posting on such topic...
nice attitude..I wonder y this subject is still a taboo..
n..abt that..5 class k problem..hahhahaa...
agree with u that everybody has to live his or her own life and not bother abt anybpody's sexual preferences....
but one thing i wud highlight here is why make a public show that u r a gay ? i have seen this in many blog meets i have attended. some of this ppl just need publicity and then cry self pity and victims...
such ppl dont help the larger picture of the entire gay commu who are laidback and happy with their lives and choices...
yadi comment accha na lage to delete mar dena, i just hope ki me apna point clearly bata paaya hu!!
aha, interesting read!! :)
if it wasnt good.. 'en it wasnt sex... as sex is always good :P
ahh call me perv or watever but it aint wrong
I have met a gay. He was normal and never tried to make any advances to me. They are normal people with a little different sexual interests.. Nothing to be phobic about.
Controversy creates publicity.
Celine - is that the idea ?
i don mind having celina jetley as my room mate..
i am looking for a female room mate
care to apply?
chriz
Kuch to log kahnegy logo ka Kaam hai kehna....
woh kisi ko jeene nahi de sakte...
I think they are confused souls... but I wont avoid talking to them...
i loved this post...tight slap on d faces of everyone who despises em...i agree its a personal choice n way of livin...whom r v to say anythin...
LOl @ the biwi maarti hai wala part
good post yaar!!
i totally second u on it.. jeeney do yaar unki apni life hai!!
very good post.. pat on the back!!
EXCUSE ME
I have a problem.. I am straight.. no that is not a problem.. but consider this:
if you are straight and a oblique person tries to contact you, tries to be close to you, tries to ahem ahem with you.. will your attitude change?
Baaki jeene ka sabko samaan adhikaar hai.. its seriously bad to harass them just because of their inclination.. logo k passss bahut faaltu time hai iss country main!
IS COMMENT KA JAWAB DEDO THAAKUR!
Hi Harshita...
I jumped here from arnab's space and the very first post i read is this...
Its really nice to know that people out here in india have started accepting the facts that Gay's and Lesbians are also human beings...
I hate homophobics literally like anything, for they treat gays and lesbians like some neechi jaat ke log/AIDS HIV effected ppl...
I dont understand why they ahve aproblem when science itself has proved its not a unnormal things?
Overall i appreciate your broadmindedness in this post....I am glad that for ppl like G/L, there is a magazine they can stick too.
Good one miss....
Cheers...
hi gal
100 % success hai yeh post !!!!
accha lagta hai jab tum jaisi soch ke log milte hai . waise ab this society is improving and in metro cities this is not a taboo matter anymore , but there are some ppl u cant mend there thoughts....so jst say them get well sooon....
one more thing to add....generally thes homophobics are themselves the homos, thats why they fear it to come out !!!
Very well put. :)
i love the way write...that open mind approach in all ur writes is amazing :)
Hi Harshita!
Very well written. I agree. there's so many out there ready to hate others that you don't have to go very far to find some of them. I wish people would relax and respect another person's privacy more, you know? Great post!
Best wishes,
Skeeter
Being a lesbian teenager in India, it really lifts my heart to see that there are people like you in our country who are making a difference. Great post, Harshita, and some interesting comments with lots of support too. I would like to address a few of them:
@ Sam
First let me say that I'm glad that you think that everyone has a right to love whomever they want.
Now, I don't quite understand what exactly you mean by "making a public show". I think that being publicly out as LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans) is vital to the community as it gives the oppressed, closeted and maybe even depressed queers someone to look up to, be inspired and find courage. If an out queer is subject to hate, it is very much within their rights to protest. If straight people are allowed to show who they are without fear, why not the gays?
LGBT people are a minority. The majority of the rest of the population thinks we are diseased, abnormal, deviants and what not. Coming out helps in increasing visibility, which in turn will lead more and more people to realize that we are normal human beings. This will result in increased social acceptance and reduce the ridicule, bullying and hate we face. LGBT suicide rates will come down, we will be able to breathe freely and live without fear for our and our families' lives. Wouldn't that make the world a better place to live in?
@ Arv
Well, they generally are not. Some of them might be confused for a while but only until they figure out who they really are.
@ Abhinav and @ peter
I'm sorry to say but this is a kind of attitude that gets to my nerves. You say that you are okay with gays as long as they don't hit on you. Right. Have you ever thought how a girl feels when a guy would continuously hit on her even though she doesn't want anything to do with him? But according to you that's alright, isn't it? Because that's heterosexual and heterosexual is normal. What if you didn't like a girl and she hit on you continuously? Would you then say that you hate all girls? No, you won't. Because that's straight. Nothing uncomfortable, right?
I'm not saying gays should or shouldn't hit on straight people. It is not up to me to decide for other queers.
What I am saying is that you shouldn't feel threatened by homosexuality. If you don't like being hit on by a guy, avoid him, but don't hate him (or be phobic of all queerkind) just because he is gay.
And Abhinav, what on earth is an 'oblique' person?
Sorry for the essay, Harshita. Love you. XOXO
Cheers! ^_^
: )
# To Firebolt
I hope Peter will share the same opinion as mine.. He might not as well..
My English teacher told me that anything which is not straight is either curvy or oblique... Now people get offended sometimes by curves that's why I chose Oblique..
I totally agree about the feeling a girl experiences when a despo guy looks at her with 'those' kind of intentions...
I never ever said that anyone should hate LGBT people. I emphasize that they are are a part of the society as much as others are.. Like we shouldn't ignore HIV affected people, in the same way we should accept them as a part of our race... (Although HIV case and LGBT as you like to say are totally different thing!)
What I don't understand is just that what makes a guy(or girl) like person of same gender.. That's why I think this way.. (Its upto them what they like, even if I want, I cannot change their state of mind!)
Easy firebolt mam! Easy!
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Someone above said and I quote "I hate homophobics literally like anything, for they treat gays and lesbians like some neechi jaat ke log/AIDS HIV effected ppl...".. now what in the holy hell HIV affected people are like neechi jaat k log an what the hell is neechii jaat k log?
being queer identified myself i totally understand where this post is coming from.
nice going..
The fact that straight people when they support queer issues become tagged gay is the biggest discrimination. i wrote about this in a paper of mine where i argues how this moral brigading has made us lose ' the straight allies for queer' that so many campuses in the west boast of and which would have given a much needed boost to our sagging queer activism.
but then once sumone like clina joins, out jumps the hypocritical homophobes.
oh well. fuck dem!
@ firebolt ...
Gal read,think but dun exaggerate or misinterpret things in your own way. When people do that wid my comments, It gets on my nerves.
I had simply stated that
"I dun like if Gay people hit on me"
Now that doesn't mean that if a guy hits on a gal she is all comfortable, or vice versa.
(that was your own assumption)
and as far as being threatened by homosexuality is concerned, aren't there cases f homosexual rapes ??
If gals can be afraid of ..straight guys, then why cant guys be afraid of gay people ??
I am not blaming every single homosexual soul on the earth for this but i have seen and heard some disgusting things which i can't even talk about.
Now if you still find some loop holes on my comment, then please lemme know ,, i won't mind digging further and clearing your doubts !
I can see that it's Hot out here...to cool you...pls come over & help yourself with an Award, Girl:)
Come soon:)
anything but straight is oblique or curve hahaha
Damn it till day I thought an obliques was an inclined straight line \cheers/
dumb me
@ peter
This is a generalized statement, as was my previous one.
When a person you don't like hits on you, you're likely to politely refuse and move on, regardless of whether they are a boy or a girl.
Why even let gender be a factor here? Why not simply remove gender from the question and see how simple it becomes? You see, there is absolutely no need for a politically incorrect statement like, "I don't mind gays as long as they don't hit on me." Because you're as just likely to reject a girl you don't like as you are to rejecting a gay guy. That is my point.
Although I doubt that gay people anywhere are killing themselves over straight people. Most of us know that straight people are just not worth the trouble. Tell them that you're not available, and they will back off. If they don't, do dislike them for hounding you but don't hate them for being gay.
Even this case becomes simpler once you leave out gender. A person you don't like is hounding you. You dislike them because they won't leave you alone. It doesn't matter whether they are a girl or a boy. It doesn't matter whether they are straight or gay.
You don't have to hate a girl you don't like for being straight because she is hitting on you. Similarly, you don't have to hate a guy for being gay because he is hitting on you. It is their clinging attitude you hate. Do you get my drift?
As for being afraid of gay guys, I thought that the whole point of this debate was to remove the irrational fear surrounding homosexuality. Isn't it? So where does this sanctioned homophobia come in? You see, most people think that gays are over-sexualized immoral deviants who will desperately grab on to every ass in sight. I'm not pointing at you but comments like those only perpetuates that wrong idea about gays, even if subliminally.
I won't even have a go at the homosexual rape jab you put in there because hitting on and getting raped are two different things. How does one even connect harmless flirting to something as heinous as rape? Sodomy that happens in the military, prisons etc. is an example of straight men not being able to keep it in their pants. Generally, these so called 'homosexual' rapists are married straight men with wife and kids at home. Rape of any kind, is a despicable, unforgivable crime. But I doubt that there are that many gay guys running around trying to bang any and every posterior that crosses their path. This age old fear of gay rape has been over-hyped by wrong beliefs and strange fears. People fail to understand that most of the gay folks are peace-loving, normal creatures who do not worship Satan or sexually harass others.
No need to be insecure. No need to be afraid. If you're secure enough about your sexuality then you needn't worry about the flamboyant queen at the bar because you know he is not going to get any from you. This is what I meant by not being threatened by homosexuality.
Keep in mind, Peter, that this statement is not directed specifically at you but collectively at all those who make similar comments wherever the question of homosexuality pops up.
@ AbhinavI see. Well, let me give you a new word to play with:
Anyone (and not anything) who is not straight is 'queer'.
There, that is better. Plus, it doesn't even make it sound like we have a posture problem. LOL!
As for you not being able to understand what makes us tick, try thinking of it this way: you like girls, so do I.
You don't see yourself doing it with boys. Same here, mate. I don't want any dick either.
This is not how it happens and it is a whole lot more complex than that but well, you needed some visualization.
Cheers! ^_^
@ Firebolt
I had made a direct and a transparent remark on your statement of being comfortable or uncomfortable when an individual Homo sapiens (yes let's remove the gender) hits on the other homo sapiens irrespective of gender or individual's interest.
I don't have to be politically correct when I am speaking my mind and heart out and well when u talk about rejection or accepting someone's proposal, this justification of yours doesn't qualify I say. Gay people (read: most of the times) don't propose or ask someone out, they just do physical flirting and that obviously makes a normal human being, get pissed to the core.This shit lies in the head irrespective of the gender/cast/creed/personal interest. But then as I said nobody can generalize the fact.
and wait a minute Did not you just say what i wanted to say? in this statement of yours :
"A person you don't like is hounding you. You dislike them because they won't leave you alone. It doesn't matter whether they are a girl or a boy. It doesn't matter whether they are straight or gay."
Okay, I do hate when a gal hits on me and provided i don't like her, but here the point was made for gay people not for the straight ones and so I had to write that very 1st comment of mine referring to the all Gay souls. which I don't know if you are actually getting or perhaps deliberately not trying to understand.
Homosexual traumas and rapes, are not confined to prisons and military base camps, it can be witnessed in a normal boy's hostel to some local cheap category pubs and Mind you, the reasons you mentioned are not universally the same and well To Rape someone You have to have that insanity codons in your Genes, I say 90% people can't rape, but people are afraid of the rest 10%.
A normal homosexual won't harass and so would a normal straight soul.
for the last line of your comment ..all I have to say is that
If you think I can't generalize what I feel, then you can't generalize what you feel either...
You knw wat, I would have loved to debate further on this but I have realized that it's now more of a shit juggling and we both are indirectly pointing the same thing out on a broad spectrum with a few little misunderstandings of course and a slight little disagreements on minor issues which changes from one person to the other.
@ Fireolt
"As for you not being able to understand what makes us tick, try thinking of it this way: you like girls, so do I.
You don't see yourself doing it with boys. Same here, mate. I don't want any dick either."
Be logical gal, this might sound funky but you could have given a far far better explanation to what his doubt was ...*period*
PEACE OUT !
That's it.. stop this discussion now... we all want to 'hit' the same target but we have different weapons to do that!
Thanks!
@Little Girl Lost
:) Thanks... I wish more of us think on the same lines.
@Peter
Hmm... Bahut garma-garam discussion hua hain iss jagah pey...
Ab jab ki u guys have called in for ceasefire... I thought of stepping in and replying to comments.
I did exaggerate the 5th class ke sawaal part :D
hehehe.
@Arnab
I agree.. let's hope the Moral Police grows up.
@Nanhi Pari
Well I think someday they will get their due and people will accept this fact of life. :) Till then all we can do is make a difference thru our opinions and blogs.
@Raka
That's good. I think gay men are the best of friends for a woman. I have seen that a lot and I hope we women also turn out to be gud frenz to them.
@Ria
Thanks a lot. People like you will definitely lead us all in the right direction.
@Amrita
Thanks a lot... Me too wonder abt the same.. but am sure with all of us being in tandem with it.. .we will make it surpass the taboos.
@Sam
Every comment is worth keeping intact. I dont do that to my comments :)
Well Firebolt has replied to one of your questions. I am sure you will read it in the follow-up.
@sawan
thanks
@Aevi
Men will be men :)
@Launchpad
Hmm... hope more ppl get the point.
@Hobo
Yeah! Celina and controversies go hand in hand
@Chriz
Well you can always email her. she is anyways getting too much hate mails. Your concern will melt her heart. :)
@Pallav
Aaho!
@Arv
Mmm... no comments on that one... I dont think they r confused... I think they r sure abt what they want. :)
@mayz
hehe.. thanks... on a serious note, i m glad I have met some like-minded people.
@Richa
thanks for that pat on the back!!
@Abhinav
Well like I told Peter.. kaafi garma garam mahaul ho gaya tha..
@Abhinav
I am glad that you guys called it truce.
I agree... we shud not harass them for who they are.
:) Thakur ne jawaab de diya hain Veeru :D
@Mahesh
Well the earlier we accept it the better. thanks. :)
BTW I worked with AIDS patients too and these guys have more will-power and ability to create happiness around them than us.
@Suyog
hey! thanks. I agree with the last line of your comment completely.
@ki
Thanks.
@mysterious gal
thanks so much. :)
@Skeeter
Thanks. I wish for the same.
@Firebolt
Thanks a lot for receiving this post with open arms.
Also, it is gud to see that healthy yet heated discussion going on.
Glad that you tried making your point here. I am sure all of you are on the same page now. :)
@Manish
:)
@Astraeus
Thanks so much.Well some people just dont seem to do anything with MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS phrase. ;) We have to live with them in our society.
@Deepazartz
thanks so much.
@ Firebolt, Peter and Abhinav
Abhi tum log dost baney ki nahi? :)
Harshita ji
aapkey blog pe pahli baar aisa discussion hua hai lagta hai ;)
Abhinav toh hai he dost, firebolt se bhi koi problem nahi hai mujhey ...she sounds like an open-minded and a brave kid !!
All the best to her for her board exams :P
Thought provoking N nice post. I think Only you could have written it so well.:)
Balle balle! :)
Tussi Jai ho? Abhishek Bachhan said in Dostana ki Jai Veeru were a couple! Aaao chal k uske ghar pe pathraav karke aayein!
All the best for Firebolt's IIT and later IIM dreams! May them come true soon!
Ji Peter ji... sahi kaha aapney...pehli pehli baar hain :)
@Sneha
Thankoo ;)
@Abhinav
NAUTANKI!! ;) I dont mind being a couple wen it comes to you... hehe parrrrr... am not paedophilic in nature...hehe.. BTW u called me Thakur naa!! ;)
Am sure tumhari duaaon se Firebolt fod daalegi sab exams. :)
*Raises a hand in Vulcan Salute*The discussion was quite enjoyable, in a heated sort of way.
Peter, Abhinav and of course Thakur (hehe..), you guys are cool! Keep that up. Thank you for your good wishes.
Cheers! ^_^
its so true...live n let live..and it's about time India brings new legislations for them... :-w
nice post..and even nicer debate in the comments section....firebolt is really fiery :O :D all the best to her... :D
good post. I agree with u.
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